"Suspend motion" autocheks in 3ds max

mushimas · Post by **mushimas** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:13 am

The "suspend motion" autochecks without noticeable reason (while modeling for example) and I have to open the control panel to uncheck it, then close the control panel then reopen it to uncheck once again (I did nothing between closing and reopening, just reopening the dialog...) and then again and again for 5 to 20 times to have the checkbox finally stay unchecked. I sometimes resign and have to reboot 3ds max.
5 to 20 min later, it autockecks again (still modeling)...

The website promises increase of productivity... I more often use native 3ds max viewport pan/rotation mouse shortcuts than SpaceNavigator....

Phil

3ds max 9-32 SP1, WinXP Pro SP2
SpaceNavigator SE 3.2.2 driver - 3DxWare 6.2.1 - 3DxStudio 4.4

hiero · Post by **hiero** » Thu May 03, 2007 12:01 pm

Hi

I have the same experience with my spaceball 5000 and the space navigator
This seem to happen 2 or 3 times per hour...

and indeed you need to manually uncheck it

Ken Denton · Post by **Ken Denton** » Fri May 04, 2007 6:42 am

Great News! This problem has been fixed. The fix is available in 3DxSoftware 3.3.2. Please give it a try and post any feedback. Thanks!

mushimas · Post by **mushimas** » Thu May 10, 2007 9:28 am

Great news !!! I'll give a try and tell you.

Phil

mushimas · Post by **mushimas** » Thu May 10, 2007 9:58 am

It's much more slower than the 3.2.2 release... The native 3ds max viewport navigation (alt + middle mouse button) rotates the scene quicker.
While using SpaceNavigator, the 8 bottom right 3ds max icons (the ones dedicated to viewport management) blinks a lot and I suppose that this is why it slows down the scene rotation.

Only the very first move is smooth. If I hold off my hand and hold the device back on, the move are very slow.

I prefer revert back to the 3.2.2 release even if it forces me to restart 3ds max from time to time to disable the "suspend motion" checkbox but allows me to use the SpaceNavigator...

The 3.3.2 update cost more in productivity loss than the 3.2.2 and make the SpaceNavigator unusable. I had great expectations working with 3DConnexion devices and I'm a little disapointed.

But don't worry, that gives developers things to work on for the next release (I can't promise I'll still be using the device at that time).

Phil

Post by **ngomes** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:45 am

Hi mushimas,
The blinking (or flickering) problem is a known issue. Please refer to this topic.

mushimas · Post by **mushimas** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:18 am

Thanks.
As the fixed driver is not released yet, there should be a warning on the download page for 3ds max user telling us not to update if using v3.2.2 (lucky me, I kept the installer).

I'll wait and see.

Phil

marcore · Post by **marcore** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:08 pm

Slowly i'm getting pissed of at the 3.3.2 drivers with 3ds max9.....bad bad, 30% more efficiency...you guys mean 30 times unchecking the suspend motion. problematic behavior.

and the flickering wohooOo...google earth and second life yeah, but hardcore expensive apps like max nopes, i feel like i've been pulled a leg.

//ranting mode off{
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Post by **ngomes** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:38 am

Hi marcore,

We appreciate your frustration and we apologise for any inconvenience this issue is causing. The problem has been fixed and, until we have the new build of release 3.3 ready, we suggest you use version 3.2. Please download it from the Archive section here.

sorin · Post by **sorin** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:55 am

i'm getting this bug again in the latest driver (v4.4 max plugin). it not often, not even once a day but it happens.

i'd make a driver without that option at all. or at least a build without it for people that never want to disable the SN like myself.

mushimas · Post by **mushimas** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:43 am

I'm having it back too with the latest driver for 3ds max but hadn't time yet to say it on that thread...
I'd keep the ''suspend motion'' option (even if I do see any use of it : don't touch the device and the motion is suspended

) because it may be useful to someone but as it seems hard to manage as a software feature, I'd rather have it as a hardware button, as you have now on wireless mouse to save power.

Phil

Post by **mbonk** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:24 pm

The (auto) suspend motion option.

There are a number of actions that 3ds Max performs, that do not tolerate a camera being created while they are being done: in short Max throws an exception, tells the user all about it, and exits. Fortunately, there are a number of messages that 3ds Max sends internally - similar to "About to Load File" and "Load File Finished" etc - between which the device input is suspended.

The previous issue was caused due to the "Whatever finished" message not being sent because the action was being aborted: this might for example happen when a dialog is canceled. It appears that we have either missed one of the "Whatever aborted" messages or 3ds Max doesn't always send the messages in pairs.
We would really appreciate if you would lets us know what was happening when the suspend was checked and left checked. That might help us to resolve the issue.

In short, the check box "Suspend Motion" is in fact a cleverly disguised work around (its not a bug its a feature!)

Just kidding.

Markus

sorin · Post by **sorin** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:18 am

i can't tell what i was doing since i only see it's not working who knows how long after it has disabled itself.

if you could flash the icon or change the color of the SN control panel in the taskbar when it's disabled we could catch the event before it

Post by **mbonk** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:58 pm

if you could flash the icon or change the color of the SN control panel in the taskbar when it's disabled we could catch the event

That wouldn't really work: There are numerous actions that cause the box to be checked and then almost immediately unchecked. Why not simply keep the internal control panel open?

sorin · Post by **sorin** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:12 am

it takes too much space on a 19" display. if you make a smaller floater with just on/off indication i could keep it open all times. or make a macro button i could drag to a toolbar.