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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: How I got the rcb driver working in Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit  Reply with quote  

Sam



Joined: 19 Jan 2010
Posts: 2

After I'd installed the driver according to Pezito's tips, windows crashed right before the sign-in screen everytime.

Here's how I finally got it working:

- I rebooted in secure mode (as suggested by windows) with the space navigator still connected and the computer tried to repair the system, but failed to do so (what a surprise Smile ) and finally shut itself down

- I disconnected the Space Navigator and started the computer again. This time I got into Windows without any trouble.

- I started the "Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider" (from Pezito's post), chose "Enable Test mode", pressed "Next" and left the program running.

- Reconnected my Space Navigator, et voilà: it worked! It flashed up a couple of times before the light became steady.

I tried it out in Flight Simulator X but it wouldn't find any of my settings defined in my layout. So I quit the RBC9-SpaceNav.exe program and tried to calibrate my SpaceNavigator-Joystick from within FSX.

Unfortunately I only got the X and the Z-Axis working. The other ones remained silent.

When raw data is displayed it shows values from 120 to 620 for the X-Axis and values from 0 to 720 for the Z-Axis.
The rest stays at 360.

Hope this is helpful for others and for further development. Great work anyways! Wink

Cheers
Sam

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

Sam



Joined: 19 Jan 2010
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So I finally got all working. I editted my layout (with several crashes of the program) and finally had X, Y and Z-Axis as well as the rotations.

Great, now I can start experimenting in FSX. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

sonicxtacy02



Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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I've got an extremely odd issue going on with my SpaceNav and Windows 7 32-bit. I've got the v2 drivers installed and my SpaceNav is lit. Its acting as a mouse with the X and Y axis, the buttons don't seem to do anything. Before i connected my SpaceNav to the computer i opened the RBC9 executable and created a bind consisting of keyboard shortcuts. But anytime i have the SpaceNav connected to the computer the RBC9 .exe crashes as soon as its started. I've tried reinstalling it and re-doing the drivers for the SpaceNav but nothing seems to work. I gotta get this thing working because its the main control for my Car PC. I'm assuming the mouse movements with X and Y are the driver's default, but i need a specific set of keyboard shortcuts working. Please HELP lol

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:08 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

sonicxtacy02



Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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ok it appears i've made some progress. I now have the v2 drivers installed, rbc9 executible running and my controls set and saved as the default bind. I can see in the executible that the spacenav is detected as the numbers on the axis icons are moving correctly. I've got my bind set up to send key presses, however the key presses aren't being sent. Is there something special i have to do with windows 7 to allow it to interpret the executibles commands?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

Pezito



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
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Well, just make sure your custom profile is set as default and click "apply"... Then you need to unplug your SpaceNav from the USB port, and plug it back. As far as I know, it's the only way to make it use your new profile.

Anytime you edit your default profile in RBC9's app, you need to click "apply" then unplug/replug the device. Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:32 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

sonicxtacy02



Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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Thanks for your reply. I hit apply. And i definitely tried unpluging/replugging the usb. I even tried to reboot. Something is being configured as the lights blink like they're supposed to. It seems the problem isn't between the spaceNav and the application, but the application and windows 7

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

Pezito



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
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I'm not sure what the problem is (and I have Windows 7 64-bit so maybe it makes a difference ?)...

But I remember my first attempts at using the RBC9 app weren't successful. I tried to bind simple keystrokes to the SpaceNav but it didn't work as intended. Maybe you should try and play with the various settings in RBC9's app ? I usually choose "long press", adjust delays, dead zone... Those settings matter when you don't want different axis of the SpaceNav to interfere with each other.

My advice would be to check the numbered values that appear in RPBC9's app when you move the SpaceNav controls, and change the dead zone or min/max values so that you can be sure the SpaceNav will never toggle two or three different binds in the same time. Working with the Notepad and simple letter presses can be a quick way to figure out if anything works at all. Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

DrLilo



Joined: 25 Jan 2010
Posts: 1

Hi guys newbie here with age old problems. I have read most of the above...

I'm running Windows 7 64-bit and own a Space Navigator and have tried every version (32 or 64) that I've seen links to on this thread. I've followed all the instructions and I used that driver signing enforcement overrider piece of crap to do nothing but get a lot of headaches from constantly having to reboot.

I'm seriously stressing out, why haven't 3D Connexion made this driver their official one and improved its compatibility? It's obvious that everyone who can use it, will prefer to... It improves the value of the product.

Anyway if anyone can possibility suggest a solution I'd be grateful. I need to remap this device for a college project.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

Pezito



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
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As someone suggested, since 3Dconnexion has been bought by Logitech their products have probably been "kept" from evolving too much because Logitech already offers several devices that would be in direct competition with those by 3Dconnexion. To improve 3Dx devices like the SpaceNavigator, the way those unofficial drivers can, could quite possibly make any "3D-trackball-pro-gaming-controller" device useless. Things being as they are right now, 3Dx devices can be safely limited to the small world of a handful of applications... At least that's how I see it. Confused

Anyway. What you should do is use the 64-bit version of the unofficial driver (which you can download from Omni Flux's web site), and make sure you proceed just as described in my post there. I'm not sure I've stressed it enough in my pseudo-tutorial but you have to delete anything RBC9-related from your C:\Windows folder (and subfolders) ! Namely the .sys and .inf files that may remain. Otherwise you can never be sure Windows is using the version of the files you want. Also, keep in mind the HID/USB replacing in the .inf file... It could prove helpful.

Lastly, if you want to be 100% sure that Windows is allowing the use of unsigned drivers, in addition to the driver signing enforcement tool you will probably want to press F8 during boot to bring up Windows' boot menu ; then you can safely select the line that mentions unsigned drivers, and you know they ARE actually allowed for that session.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:37 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

sonicxtacy02



Joined: 21 Jan 2010
Posts: 4

well after about 4 reinstalls and driver changes tonight i finally got the device working. HUGE relief. Its funny cause i was under the impression that the rbc9 app had to be running for the binds to work. But i guess thats not the case as the binds are working fine without the app running now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

Pezito



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Posts: 7

Yes, it's explained somewhere in the docs for RBC9's app ; you only need to run the app if you want to be able to (auto-)switch profiles (which, actually, never worked for me Confused ). It says however that the default profile is saved and active by default, so once you've defined it, you don't have to run RBC9's app as his driver will already use your profile. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:37 pm    Post subject: Issues software says that the is no device found  Reply with quote  

ericgandt



Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 8

I have signed and installed the "RBC9 Driver - TEST x64 build" driver it shows up in device manager as "RBC9 SpacePilot MouJoyKey v2" under hardware ID "USB\VID_046D&PID_C625", and windows is happy, however every time I attempt to start the RBC9-SpaceNav program is says "!SpaceNavigator not found!" and then thats that, nothing seems to work from then on.

I'm on Windows 7 x64 and have followed the instructions that seem to work for other people, but not for me Sad . Also once I installed the driver the default software stopped working.

Ideas?

Thanks,
ERIC Sad

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote  

chipell



Joined: 16 Feb 2010
Posts: 4

I've installes windows 7 on my computer and want to start my Spacemouse Plus xt seriell. but I can't find a driver for this.
can someone help me?!
and were is the link for this driver of rbc9??
thanks

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject: Newer Operating Systems require newer drivers and devices  Reply with quote  

Bryan
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Dear chipell,

The SpaceMousePlus XT Serial has not been produced for many years now. The drivers developed for it were developed way before the introduction of Windows 7. Our current line of drivers for Windows 7 require use of our current devices, SpaceNavigators, SpaceExplorer USB, SpacePilot PRO.

Sincerely,
Bryan G.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:49 am    Post subject: The system cannot find the file specified  Reply with quote  

HaggeL



Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Posts: 1

I did as Pezito suggested, but unfortunately it ends up with a failure.

Updating the driver, i get:
"Windows encountered a problem installing the driver software for your device. / The system cannot find the file specified"

Working on Windows 7 64bit, the install-routine from RBC9 stored the RBC9-SpaceNav.sys in "C:\Windows\SysWOW64\drivers", thus i replaced it with Omni Flux new .sys-file.

I examined the inf file and and found
Code:
ServiceBinary  = %10%\System32\drivers\RBC9-SpaceNav.sys


That might be the source of Problem Wink

But changing the line above to
Code:
ServiceBinary  = %10%\SysWOW64\drivers\RBC9-SpaceNav.sys

or
Code:
ServiceBinary  = C:\Windows\SysWOW64\drivers\RBC9-SpaceNav.sys

didn´t change anything.

Another try:
I copied the .sys-file to C:\Windows\System32\driver and signed it as well. Now updating the driver of HID-compliant device, same failure appears.

Channging
Code:
%RBC9_NAV.DeviceDesc%   =Install, HID\VID_046D&PID_C626      ; SpaceNav

back to
Code:
%RBC9_NAV.DeviceDesc%   =Install, USB\VID_046D&PID_C626      ; SpaceNav

and updating the driver for usb-device (not HID-compliant device) seems to work, red dialog box now appears (!), then waiting a few secs and the same failure from above appears. Embarassed

Any idea, what's going wrong?

Greets HaggeL

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