2D Mouse Only Mode

[jwick]

The input is occasionaly a little bit lagged - is this normal?

I'd need more information. It could be a little slow on occasion if it is busy loading a new profile.

Also, will there be support for left click and drag at any point?

You can assign a left mouse button now. Then you can use the cap to do a drag. Did you have something else in mind?

[dteich02]

I guess im a little confused about how the cap would be able to drag. I currently have the left button mapped to left mouse and right button mapped to right mouse. when I go to click and drag an item on the desktop to the recycle bin by holding the left button and moving the cap the pointer on screen stays still.

[jwick]

I guess im a little confused about how the cap would be able to drag. I currently have the left button mapped to left mouse and right button mapped to right mouse. when I go to click and drag an item on the desktop to the recycle bin by holding the left button and moving the cap the pointer on screen stays still.

I see what you are seeing. The cursor is supposed to move even when you have that button pressed. This is an enhancement that we are working on for a subsequent beta.

[dteich02]

alright good to know, thank you for the update and for all of the help today!

[suedonim]

You should sticky this and keep it at the top of the forum. It answers so many questions that will continue to get asked. This is my first day I've had the SPP and I have started to get the 2d mouse function to work. Looks very promising.

[suedonim]

Only works in Chrome so far though.

[suedonim]

So these are my observations as of now. I've been trying to get the SPP configured all day. I installed it first on a 32bit XP system and it started working beautifully at first. Once I started trying to add profiles things got mucked up. I had all but given up on the first system install. Movement was choppy, couldn't get key asignments to work. Didn't matter what profile I selected. On the second system install I installed the 64bit version. Again it worked beautifully in the beginning. I created a custom profile for Chrome (still no luck getting it to work in IE) but chose the Joystick profile template which ended up being a bad decision as it's not necessary for 2d mouse functions. I ended up removing that profile to create a new Chrome profile. Unfortunately the new Chrome profile was exhibitingthe same jerky x/y axis only movements and the button assignments now are not working. I uninstalled the application, restarted, reinstalled, restarted only to find that the Chrome profile was still there and had the settings from the prior installation. So based on that I have to assume that the xml (? I'm guessing here) or whatever file that is created does not get removed upon uninstalling of the application.

I've answered my own question. I tried exporting the profile and found that it was stored in my Windows/system32 file. It was named Chrome.xml. This was the suspect file. I cut it and moved it to another location (I did this in case it was important - also you may have to do this more than once). I then went back to the 3dconnexion Properties gui and went to manage profile, my Chrome profile was still there so I removed it. I then closed the gui, restarted Chrome, restarted the gui, and then added a chrome profile again. The choppiness I was experiencing before went away and I'm able to assign functions again.

[suedonim]

You said there was a way to assign a left mouse button. How do you do that? I haven't been able to figure it out. Is it done with AutoHotKey or is it built into the GUI and I'm just not comprehending how it works?

[jwick]

You said there was a way to assign a left mouse button. How do you do that? I haven't been able to figure it out. Is it done with AutoHotKey or is it built into the GUI and I'm just not comprehending how it works?

You can assign the Left Mouse Button to a device key, or you can use it as a modifier on an axis that is assigned to a mouse axis. Which would you like to do?

[suedonim]

I'd like to assign it to a device key please.

[jwick]

I'd like to assign it to a device key please.

Then in the Buttons tab, you should have a "2D Mouse" category under Select Function that will give you Left, Middle and Right Mouse buttons.

If they are not there in the profile you created, add these addition ButtonActions to the list in the profile for your application (use notepad):

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    <ButtonAction Type="Mouse">
      <ID>HIDMouse_Left</ID>
      <Name>STR_MOUSE_LEFT</Name>
    </ButtonAction>
    <ButtonAction Type="Mouse">
      <ID>HIDMouse_Middle</ID>
      <Name>STR_MOUSE_MIDDLE</Name>
    </ButtonAction>
    <ButtonAction Type="Mouse">
      <ID>HIDMouse_Right</ID>
      <Name>STR_MOUSE_RIGHT</Name>
    </ButtonAction>


[suedonim]

The 2d mouse option is not there. Am I adding this to the xml file? That would be my assumption. If not where exactly am I adding it?

[jwick]

The 2d mouse option is not there. Am I adding this to the xml file? That would be my assumption. If not where exactly am I adding it?

Yes the XML file used by your application. If you made a new one, it would be in %appdata%\3dconnexion\3dxware\cfg. If it is one we ship, it will be under the 3DxWinCore directory /Cfg.

[suedonim]

I feel incredibly slow. IE hasn't worked for me at all so I'm using Chrome. I found the folder you're speaking of but there is no chrome xml file. When I export a file (or import) I save it to a folder in MY Documents and the changes applied work. I tried making the changes you suggested to that file with no success. What am I missing?

[jwick]

I feel incredibly slow. IE hasn't worked for me at all so I'm using Chrome. I found the folder you're speaking of but there is no chrome xml file. When I export a file (or import) I save it to a folder in MY Documents and the changes applied work. I tried making the changes you suggested to that file with no success. What am I missing?

IE should work very well. What happens for you? But if you like Chrome, that should work ok (not as good).

Unfortunately, I was not allowed to include a 2D Mouse Template in the release to get you started. Please PM your chrome.xml file to me. I will fix it and email it back to you.